The following is a written copy of what is said in the video:
...video uh the response to the, the, best optical illusion in the world, by the same person who did "10 Questions that Every" ah "intelligent christian must answer." Um... I really encourage people to watch this tape and, uh, this video clip. Obviously we know the stance that this person who makes these videos is coming from; they just don't believe that god is real, that he's imaginary.
So therefore, they have to have some other explanation about how the universe got here. So obviously the only other alternative, as far as I know, is, uh, the evolutionary theory; the big bang and, and, what-not. Uh, and, you can tell, but when you watch the best optical illusion in the world, you can tell, he says that all of this stuff, that if you have a prayer that's answered, that it's just coincidence.
Well that's really interesting.. uh... The evolutionists' and the atheists' whole world is built on nothing but coincidence, everything's coincidence. Including creation itself, it's all just coincidence. Everything just came by, came, came about by pure coincidence. These, these uh, by random chance; just pure coincidence. And this is how everything got here.
Come on. He talks about using your common sense. Well use it.
Number one, n-number two: God never says in the bible that he answers every prayer. In fact, when Jesus was here on Earth, going around healing the sick. I mean he healed certain people of diseases, yes. Um.. uh, uh, according to the, the uh, historical scriptural record. And for people to say: "Well you can't use that, that's part of your religion." Well listen. You know, even, um, even people in the world, um, the secular scientists have often turned to the bible in tur-eh, for archaeological purposes and what-not. See even they rely upon the bible. Uh, when it comes to, uh, going back, uh, in history to find archaeological digs and stuff, this is a fact. Uh, anybody who's actually done a serious study in archaeology knows it. Uh, whether they accept Christ or not is, really, is irrelevant, but they do know that the bible has proven to be a very valuable tool in uncovering many events in history and finding many archaeological digs.
Uh, so, so even the secular people, uh.. uh u-trust the bible in terms of, uh, of its information where, where, it comes to uncovering history.
Now, as far as prayer goes, and I think I just said this, but as far as prayer goes, god never said that in the holy scriptures, that he answers every prayer. And unfortunately, we've got a, um.. uh, now I might be condemned by a lot of my brothers and sisters out there, no offense, uh, meant, but, uh, we've got a modern christianity that is completely different from the actual biblical christianity.
That, uh, you get back to the roots of christianity and, uh, people nowadawys, they're coming to Jesus, because people are preaching, uh, uh, uh, a modern gospel that says: "Come to Jesus! He will give you happiness! Joy! Peace! He'll fulfill your life!" And you know? And a lot of times these people have been wounded and they're, they're, hurt and they're confused and they're, they're, they're upset, you know, about their, the way their life's going, and, uh, so in an experimental fashion, they say the sinner's prayer and they, and they, uh, put Jesus on for a while... but they never came to god with a broken, contrite, heart, truly broken over their sins that they had committed. They never came, really realizing, uh, just how god views sin and just how abominable that is to god, and how abominable that is to god, uh, being on them.
So.. they, they come to god in an experimental fashion and then when things don't work out and they don't get the joy and the peace and the happiness and all that that the mother and gospel promises, they walk away very delusioned and they're actually angry, uh, because as far as they're concerned, they've just been out-and-out lied to. And to tell you the truth folks, rightly so.
Because they were promised, you know... joy, peace, happiness, all these other things. In other words, but they came to Jesus for the wrong reason. They didn't come to Jesus for the biblical reason that we're supposed to come to Jesus. They came to Jesus, uh, because the modern gospel teaches: "Come to Jesus for the purpose of life enhancement."
Jesus, uh, the bible doesn't tell us to come to Jesus for the purpose of life enhancement. The bible tells us we need to come to Jesus to escape the wrath of god that is coming, because we're sinners. We've broken his laws and he's angry with us. And they he has appointed a day at which he is gonna judge the entire world, you included, in righteousness.
We need to come to Jesus and throw ourselves at the mercy of christ to be saved from the wrath to come. Period. It has nothing to do with religion, and certainly, Jesus didn't say, you know, he said, he said: "Follow me and I'll make your fissures amend." But he never promised life enhancement.
He did promise to give you eternal life and to save you from the eternal wrath of god to come if you all trust him and put your faith in him, and you will, uh, repent of your sins. There's a big one right there. You gotta repent. There's a lot of christians out there that are not repenting. They, they, they, name the name of Christ, but they're not repenting. They never really became broken over their sins. They don't see their sins as being vile in the eyes of a holy god.
And Jesus said that [incoherent] that on the day that they stand before him, he's, you know, they're gonna say: "Lord, didn't we do all these wonderful, religious works in your name?" Uh "Didn't we heal the sick? And, and, and do all these religious, wonderful, dutimous(sp?) works in your name?" And Jesus will say to them on that day: "Depart from ye workers of aniquity, for I never knew you."
So, you know, no, God doesn't answer every prayer. Could god, god being holy and righteous, by his very nature, could he answer an evil prayer? Could he? Honestly, no he could not, because that would be in violation of his very nature. And the bible also tells us that a lot of you don't get your prayers answered, because you, uh, because you're praying for the wrong reasons that you may consume it upon your lust. Well god's not gonna have anything to do with, uh, being partnership with you in evil.
No if you're pay-praying from a truly.. a truly spiritual motivated reason and y-and your reasons for your prayer are holy and righteous. First off you'd be praying for God's will. And even when you ask for something, Jesus says "If you will but believe, nothing will be impossible to you. I'll tell you whatever you ask in my name, uh, and not doubt in your heart." Now he's not talking about a head prayer. There's a difference between a head prayer and a heart prayer, from the spirit.
If you pray from the spirit, and your prayer is in [incoherent] Is in accordance with the will of god, in other words, according to what God's word lays out as being an acceptable prayer, according to his nature and character. God promises he will always answer that prayer 100% of the time.
And here's something else: God's not just an imaginary God. He's not imaginary at all. In fact God is as real as you and me. So much so, in fact, that the theory of God is totally testable. And I would challenge any serious scientist to actually set out to actually prove the existence of god. It can be done. Because God exists.
So, uh, but you have to know what you're looking at. Um, part of the reason that people don't find God through science, is, well, there's two reasons. The biggest reason is the fact that God is a spirit and they that worship him, must worship him in spirit and in truth. In other words, it's a heart thing. You can't understand God through your intellet. You really can't. Oh, you might be able to understand some of the basic principles in terms of what the bible says, but you will not be able to really understand God through your intellect.
You can't reach God through your mind. You have to reach him through your heart. And, if you don't reach him through your heart, you won't be able to reach him at all. And, uh, God is motivated by faith, but not head faith. Not mental ascent. Not mind-over-matter. But true heart-faith, that's inspired by the spirit of God. And when you have heart faith coupled with a holy.. uh, with holy and righteous motives, God says he'll always answer the prayer with an absolute "yes."
So, the reason people don't get their prayers answered many times, is because their heart's not in the right place. Or because rather than having a prayer of, uh, of faith from the heart, they're praying with their intellect; they're praying with their mind. And you can't do that.
And when it comes to understanding God, you have to worship God w-in your spirit and in the truth. And the truth is, if you're praying for the wrong things... uh... [shrug] that's gonna feed your flesh, that's going to, uh, promote more sin, God will not have anything to do with it. He's not gonna be a partner, uh, uh, in Sin. That violates his very nature.
So, anyway, I should, would actually like to post more on this later and I think I will, but I think I'm gonna hold it on, uh, on that. And I appreciate all your comments.
So, good, bad, or indifferent; whether you accept it; whether you don't, that's cool. I'd just like to hear what you have to say. Thanks
Contradictions
Here are a series of quotes that contradict each other:
...that would be in violation of his very nature.
If such an act would be a violation, that would assume that there is a presence or means of judging God, but God is supposed to be the ultimate, and therefore can not be judged himself.
In other words, it's a heart thing. You can't understand God through your intellet. You really can't.
This statement results in circular logic ("you won't understand unless you agree with me")
Fallacies
The following is a series of quotes and how they are irrelevant, inconsistent, unreliable, or fake.
So therefore, they have to have some other explanation about how the universe got here. So obviously the only other alternative, as far as I know, is, uh, the evolutionary theory; the big ban
He actually never makes any claims about his own personal beliefs on the subject of evolution or big bang theories. Both of which are never even mentioned in either of the two videos that are mentioned.
God never says in the bible that he answers every prayer.
If God is supposed to be everywhere and know everything, then it would be impossible for him to not know about every prayer. Semantically speaking, by ignoring a prayer, or it otherwise not becoming true, it is the equivalent of responding with a "no." But that is an answer. It isn't an acceptance or agreement to do what the person wanted, but it is an answer.
... the secular scientists have often turned to the bible in tur-eh, for archaeological purposes...
No reference suggested on the validity of this statement. I'm not informed on whether or not this is true, or to what extent.
...a modern gospel that says: "Come to Jesus! He will give you happiness! Joy! Peace! He'll fulfill your life!"
This statement does not name a specific religion or division that makes claims like this. Without a proper reference, how can this be rational?
...people nowadawys, they're coming to Jesus, because people are preaching, uh, uh, uh, a modern gospel that says: "Come to Jesus! He will give you happiness! Joy! Peace! He'll fulfill your life!" And you know? And a lot of times these people have been wounded and they're, they're, hurt and they're confused and they're, they're, they're upset, you know, about their, the way their life's going, and, uh, so in an experimental fashion, they say the sinner's prayer and they, and they, uh, put Jesus on for a while... but they never came to god with a broken, contrite, heart, truly broken over their sins that they had committed. They never came, really realizing, uh, just how god views sin and just how abominable that is to god, and how abominable that is to god, uh, being on them.
So.. they, they come to god in an experimental fashion and then when things don't work out and they don't get the joy and the peace and the happiness and all that that the mother and gospel promises, they walk away very delusioned and they're actually angry, uh, because as far as they're concerned, they've just been out-and-out lied to. And to tell you the truth folks, rightly so.
Because they were promised, you know... joy, peace, happiness, all these other things. In other words, but they came to Jesus for the wrong reason. They didn't come to Jesus for the biblical reason that we're supposed to come to Jesus. They came to Jesus, uh, because the modern gospel teaches: "Come to Jesus for the purpose of life enhancement."
This is a theoretical situation, not statistics. Claiming "a lot of the times" even though he likely has not actually researched this matter.
There's a lot of christians out there that are not repenting.
Also idealogical, not statistical.
If you pray from the spirit, and your prayer is in [incoherent] Is in accordance with the will of god, in other words, according to what God's word lays out as being an acceptable prayer, according to his nature and character. God promises he will always answer that prayer 100% of the time.
This can't be proven. The "strength" or "heart" behind a prayer is unmeasurable, making it impossible for anyone else to confirm its legitimacy. Therefore, making claims about "answered prayers" is nothing more than confirmation bias.
...the theory of God is totally testable.
This statement makes the inclination that there is evidential proof of God's existence, which there is not.
In other words, it's a heart thing. You can't understand God through your intellet. You really can't.
This is the biggest fallacy made in this speach. This statement reaches beyond all logical reasoning, suggesting that it is possible to think without using intellect. Since the only way to produce thought is through intellect, that is impossible.
Fundamentally, this statement also resorts to circular logic (in order to understand you must agree with his point of view)
Personal Responses
The following is a series of quotes and responses to the points mentioned in the selected quotes.
The evolutionists' and the atheists' whole world is built on nothing but coincidence, everything's coincidence. Including creation itself, it's all just coincidence. Everything just came by, came, came about by pure coincidence. These, these uh, by random chance; just pure coincidence. And this is how everything got here.
Come on. He talks about using your common sense. Well use it.
Here, let me lay out the two options here then:
Believe in a God that has no evidential proof
Believe in science, statistics, and evidence which is the basis for all knowledge in existence
Somehow, I find myself more inclined to go with option 2. Afterall, we can all see how coincidence and random chance exists.
...we've got a modern christianity that is completely different from the actual biblical christianity.
Then how do you know which is right? Which one should people flock to? If a religion is based upon the words of the all-knowing, ultimate creator, shouldn't that mean there is only one truth? And wouldn't that mean that every other religion is wrong? What evidence is there to believe one over the other? Oh right ... none....
...people nowadawys, they're coming to Jesus, because people are preaching, uh, uh, uh, a modern gospel that says: "Come to Jesus! He will give you happiness! Joy! Peace! He'll fulfill your life!" And you know? And a lot of times these people have been wounded and they're, they're, hurt and they're confused and they're, they're, they're upset, you know, about their, the way their life's going, and, uh, so in an experimental fashion, they say the sinner's prayer and they, and they, uh, put Jesus on for a while... but they never came to god with a broken, contrite, heart, truly broken over their sins that they had committed. They never came, really realizing, uh, just how god views sin and just how abominable that is to god, and how abominable that is to god, uh, being on them.
I would assume most followers of religions are raised in a family that supports said religion. When it's a child being brought up, going to church or otherwise supporting a religion, it's not always their own personal choice. I would assume that it is their parents' decision. Therefore, the point in quote is weak.
We need to come to Jesus and throw ourselves at the mercy of christ to be saved from the wrath to come.
Does this refer to the afterlife or the coming judgment and wrath of God? I'm not going to talk about the afterlife, because it is entirely speculation and blind faith. There is no logic or reason to support the existance of an afterlife. However, in regards to "Judgment Day" or whenever it is that we'll be subject to the wrath of God, the Earth has been around for quite a while, and had a LOT of people on it. So far there hasn't been any mass-judgment or mass-wrath-of-God. Therefore, in the thousands of years and billions of people that have existed, not a single one has required the mercy from the wrath of God. Kind of makes it seem a little useless...
No if you're pay-praying from a truly.. a truly spiritual motivated reason and y-and your reasons for your prayer are holy and righteous. First off you'd be praying for God's will. And even when you ask for something, Jesus says "If you will but believe, nothing will be impossible to you. I'll tell you whatever you ask in my name, uh, and not doubt in your heart." Now he's not talking about a head prayer. There's a difference between a head prayer and a heart prayer, from the spirit.
If you pray from the spirit, and your prayer is in [incoherent] Is in accordance with the will of god, in other words, according to what God's word lays out as being an acceptable prayer, according to his nature and character. God promises he will always answer that prayer 100% of the time.
Even a life-long follower and avid member of the Christian faith could pray whole-heartedly for something that is not granted. We'll use the familiar amputees example. If an amputee is a lifelong, committed, sensational, follower of the Christian faith and prays with 100% of their heart to be healed, it will change nothing. It doesn't matter who you are, or what your belief system is, amputated limbs will never regenerate. The only recovery they will have, will be the will of man and technology, not God.
In fact God is as real as you and me.
Wrong. You and I can recognize and respond to each other with all of our five senses (sight, hearing, taste, smell, and touch) but we can't apply any of these senses to God. We can't prove God exists through evidence and science, and we can't communicate with him through any of our senses. Therefore, God is very much not as real as any human being.
...it's a heart thing. You can't understand God through your intellect. You really can't.
So... does this mean that in order to believe in God, I should stop thinking about it? I should just believe and never question it? I'd rather have faith that my brain is more reliable than a blood-circulating organ. Oh yeah, and here's something interesting to consider while you're here:
brain-wash-ing [breyn-wosh-ing, -waw-shing] -noun
a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, esp. through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, esp. one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.
an instance of subjecting or being subjected to such techniques: efforts to halt the brainwashing of captive audiences.
If you think that definition through and consider it in context with the quote above, doesn't it seem to kind of relate? The idea of controlling people to believe a certain thing and convincing them that it is wrong to question it, or do otherwise. Then you might as well just say: "Blindly follow me for no good reason, because if you don't, then I will think ill of you."
I suppose this is why parents would want to get their kids involved in church at an early age. At an early age, kids will be less likely to challenge or question any crazy ideas or unfounded claims. They'd just simply grow up with an acceptance of it until something changes and they begin to question it. Oh wait... but then they can't pray anymore, because then they'd be praying with their intellect, which is apparently wrong. Shit, sorry, tough luck kid. Guess you'll have to find another religion that doesn't penalize you for thinking.
Conclusion
I think after re-evaluating every point that "Thevinerhyme" makes, you can kind of sum them all into his last one: You can't pray with your intellect.
As praying leads to believing, this suggests that in order to believe in the Christian faith, you can't think about it. You can't question or think critically about your belief structure, because it's wrong and results in your prayers being ignored. I honestly think the entire reason people follow this and continue to believe in Christianity, is because they like it. They sit there and think something like "Look at this wonderful world... clearly this must be the work of a mastermind entity." and because it gives logic to things that are otherwise unexplainable.
For example, let's examine the question of: "What happens when you die?" It is impossible for anyone to actually know for certain. Nobody knows, because nobody can produce any factual evidence about any afterlife. In case it's not clear what I mean by this; nobody has any actual evidence of an afterlife or a way of accessing the afterlife that is reversible. If you need it dumbed down further, nobody has died, lived in heaven and come back with a picture of them hanging out with Jesus, or anything similar.
Some people cling to the cases where people have been "clinically dead" or whatever and then revived, like someone drowning and all bodily functions stopping for a few minutes. However, this does not help at all, because when that person is revived, the only evidence they have is what they say they felt while passed out. Let me remind you that being passed out opens the possibility of dreaming. Whether or not a person "dies" and dreams is not testable, but it is a possibility, nonetheless. Since the person who "died" will not be able to tell whether or not they were dreaming, their "proof" or experience with the afterlife is forfeit, because it can't be proven accurate. It can't be disproven either, which is why I would simply say to discard it. It can't be considered, because it's impossible to prove.
Another way of looking at this same matter, is to consider all options of explanation for such a thing like this:
What happens when you die?
You go to Heaven (or some other form of afterlife)
You become reincarnated as another person
Nothing. Your body dies and all your thoughts cease to exist
None of these options are guaranteed to be true. The only way to know for sure, is to die yourself. Until you die, you will never know for certain what happens.
As such, which of these options appeals to you more? Which do you like the best? That is where the third option drops out, because it is unimaginable. We can't imagine how it would feel to stop existing, because we exist. We can, however, invent all sorts of beautiful, creative, things that could happen in an afterlife. We could invent an entire world in the afterlife. We can do this, because there is nothing to say it is wrong.
Without any actual proof of it being wrong (attempting to prove a negative) we can simply say "Well, I'll believe it, because I don't have a reason not to." This is the same logic as conspiracy theories.
Some people believe in conspiracy theories and have just as much, if not more, foundation to believe it than any Christian has for believing in their religion. Everybody else considers the possibility of the facts or claims of a conspiracy theorist, and decides for themself whether or not to agree. This is the exact same as religion; some believe and others evaluate and decide for themselves.
The only difference between a conspiracy theorist's logic and a religious follower's logic, is the context and popularity of their views. Most conspiracies revolve around events and their underlying meaning. Religions revolve around philosophical questions and their answers.
I believe religions have more followers than conspiracy theories do, as such they become more believable. With more people explaining something, they will explain it in different ways, giving more possibilities of someone understanding it with more clarity and agreeing.
For example, here are four explanations for the same thing:
Michael Jackson may or may not have sexually assaulted some children
Michael Jackson was accused of sexually assaulting children, but he was never found guilty of doing so
Michael Jackson was accused of sexually assaulting children, but the matter was settled outside of court and no one else will ever be certain about what happened
Michael Jackson has been accused of sexually assaulting children multiple times, but it's possible that the victims were making it up in order to get money out of him
As you can see, the list progresses, adding small details and ultimately becomes more understandable. Meanwhile, all of these explanations are the same; they just include different details about the same event.
My point here is that, there is always more than one way of explaining things, even if you're trying to explain the exact same thing. Sometimes people don't understand specific explanations, but when given a different explanation of the same thing, they might agree. The only reason why religions are more believable than conspiracies, is because more people believe in the religions, and thus will have more ways of explaining or describing things involved.
On a side note, in regards to evolution. Here's a list of resources you can look into if you're interested:
If you're christian, like Thevinerhyme, your faith and belief structure is based on never questioning it and depending on blind faith. And according to Thevinerhyme, that's good, because in order to have prayers answered or granted, you have to pray without thinking about it. In other words, you will happily and mindlessly follow your Christian faith to the end of your days and if it's true, then you'll get a cookie when you go to heaven.
Congratulations! You're as good as a zombie! But as long as you don't think about it, you'll be happy!
And on that note, I will leave you with this...
Follow-Up
After sending this to Thevinerhyme he responded with the following:
You know i find it both ironic and amzaing that you all feel sooo strong that you must attempt to debunk the re: to the best optical illusion in the world! Your claims of my unlogical, logic does NOT in any way invalidate the main premise of the video. Secondly, until you succeed in producing a valid counter-argument you are just stuck. Do you really believe that all your supposed logical indictments against me will do one bit of good for you on the day of Judgment? You are not fighting me my friend, you are fighting God, and you will loose. Noone challenges the holy god who is God and wins when all things are finally hashed out. But, this is done so that the spirit of Christ and the Spirit of Antichrist might be revealed. Repent and receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour before times up my friend...God will not chide with you always and I'm here to tell ya your time for the chance to be saved is just about up
So here's a piece-by-piece response (aka counter-argument) to every point made here:
You know i find it both ironic and amzaing that you all feel sooo strong that you must attempt to debunk the re: to the best optical illusion in the world!
Not sure what exactly about that is ironic, but it doesn't really matter. I could probably say the exact same thing about Thevinerhyme, in regards to "The Best Optical Illusion in the World!" since he made almost a 10-minute-long video in response to it.
Your claims of my unlogical, logic does NOT in any way invalidate the main premise of the video.
After viewing the video again, I'd say the main premise of it is this: "Prayers are only answered if they're from the heart. They must be heart-felt in order to be answered, and when they are, it will be answered with 'Yes.' " To which I'd respond by saying the following.
If a heart-sworn Christian prays for their amputated limbs to recover, they will not. The person could be as sincere in their prayer as possible, and still would not have it answered.
Also, what does that mean about the "head-prayers" that are answered? If someone makes an evil prayer and it comes true, would that suggest God granted their wish, even though it's evil? Or would it just be random chance? Clearly, it's random chance, just like every other prayer. There is no reason to believe that any higher power had anything to do with an answered prayer, because there's no evidence to suggest such a thing. The only reason people believe so, is to give them a nice warm feeling that they're being taken care of. Grow up and get some balls. There's nothing watching over and protecting you. You just think there is, because that's what you want to think.
...until you succeed in producing a valid counter-argument you are just stuck.
Everything on this page is counter-arguments. Every point that I make on this page is an argument to prove you wrong or invalidate your points. If you disagree, then you must be resorting to semantics about what a "counter-argument" must be.
Nonetheless, I will give you a summary of the main claims (or what I believe they are) you've made and my counters to them:
Claim
Counter-Argument
Atheists and evolutionists think the universe started with a big bang, as a result of random chance and coincidence. This doesn't sound very logical.
It's more logical than your fairy tale God creating it. At least scientists can attempt to prove the big bang theory. The creationist theory can't be proven. If it was, then we would all believe it.
The bible is a reliable source of information. Archaeologists haverefered to it in the past and made discoveries from information out of the bible
As I've stated before, I'm not well-informed on this matter. So I'd simply ask: "Which ones? What archaeological discoveries were successful thanks to the bible?" Yet, I'd also mention the fact that just because some of the bible's historical claims are accurate, doesn't mean that all of it is true.
God never said that in the holy scriptures, that he answers every prayer. He won't answer a prayer unless it's from the heart
How can you prove which prayers are answered by God? How will you be able to distinguish which answered prayers were coincidence and which were the work of God? If you examine every single prayer that is answered, I believe you'll find that a series of events led to the result, and none of them simply happened as if to be the work of God.
People go to Jesus for the wrong reason: life enhancement.
How many people are actually going to church or whatever for the sake of life enhancement? Maybe you should try a survey and find out. Every person I've ever talked with, who supports a religion, has been since they were too young to make the decision themself and their parents made them go.
We need to go to Jesus to escape the wrath of god
What wrath? Who has been subject to this wrath? Only the people that are dead, I'm assuming (I'll get to judgment day later) but they're all dead, so we don't even know whether or not they were subjected to this wrath. Have you ever had a chance to ask a dead person if God's wrath came down upon them and they regret their actions? No, you haven't. As far as God's wrath goes, I'd say it doesn't exist. If it does, then it sure isn't used very much. So who cares?
Lots of Christians aren't repenting of their sins
How do you know that? Couldn't you just wait a while and repent all your sins at once? Like, say... when you're on your death bed, you repent all your sins. Is there any difference between that and doing it all your life? No, there isn't. Because repenting is bullshit. It's just a way of expressing how you feel bad about some of your actions. But the only person who cares is the one repenting.
God exists
Where's your proof? Oh, that's right... you don't have any. Every bit of proof I've ever been given about God's existence has been speculation or just bullshit.
God can't be understood through intellect
How wonderful. So you must have blind faith and never question it. Why's that? Because even the people who say this know that it's bullshit and use this as if it's some kind of trump card. Meanwhile, it's the equivalent of giving up, because humans are only capable of understanding things with intellect. If you disagree, then you're just going to make up some bullshit about emotional intellect, which you will define as "heart" or "love" or something. Heart and love are not forms of intelligence and do not produce thought.
Do you really believe that all your supposed logical indictments against me will do one bit of good for you on the day of Judgment? You are not fighting me my friend, you are fighting God, and you will loose. Noone challenges the holy god who is God and wins when all things are finally hashed out.
Fuck Judgment Day. Even if Judgment Day is coming, it sure seems like it's been a long time. It's been millions of years since life "began" and there still has yet to be a Judgment Day. So honestly, who gives a flying fuck about Judgment Day?
But, this is done so that the spirit of Christ and the Spirit of Antichrist might be revealed.
I honestly don't know what this means, but I bet it's a bunch of bullshit like everything else.
Repent and receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour before times up my friend
No thanks.
Your time for the chance to be saved is just about up
Bullshit it is. There's no Judgment Day coming, and even if there was, it's taken millions of years. What's there to say that it's coming soon? Nothing. Again, fuck Judgment Day. It's a bunch of shit.
You may have noticed I've started to become a little more hostile, and that's because I'm tired of hearing the same bullshit out of Christians who refuse to accept even the possibility they're wrong. I spent a long time being open about it and trying to understand the reasons people believe in Christianity, but it's all a bunch of bullshit. There's no evidence that anything supernatural has ever existed, because they don't. There's no god. There's no Judgment Day. Repenting is useless and so is your church. Fucking get over it and stop wasting your time supporting bullshit like Christianity. It's not worth your time.
And at that, I challenge God. Prove to me you're real and smite me or you can eat shit. Guess what? I'm not gonna get smited. You know why?
Because...
One Final Note
In response to the above Follow-Up, Thevinerhyme had the following to comment. Before reading it, I'd like to mention that I don't intend to convert christians away from their faith. I just provide my own opinion on the matter and ask that you think it through for yourself. Even if you still disagree, I hope that you disagree because of comparing the options and evaluating which makes most sense to you, and not blind faith in Christianity. Such a thing requires stepping out of line sometimes. And now, I shall be respectful to allow TheVineRhyme the last word.
I suppose I should thank you actually. Why? well because you make about the 40 or 50th person who has devoted an html webpage to responding to one of my videos...and you know what they say in hollywood...and what Mel Gibson know oh too well...and that is...there is no such thing as bad publicity. Any publicity stirs controversy and the bad kind get more attention than the good usually.
So thank you for helping me in my efforts to evangelize. It is because of people like you that my subscription lists continue to climb and my ministry and face is becoming recognized all over the web!
At first I was a bit irritated...not because i cannot provide reasonable rebuttals to you counter arguments, andone who has followed my videos closely knows that I am actually very good at that, but because I find myself constantly having requests or rebuttals requiring my attention and I unfortunately as one person do not possibly have the time nor manpower to respond to every possible objection. But, after thinking about it for a night...I realized you've done me a great favor...you are actually helping people to discover who I am and to generate controvery.
This is actually a great help because I know any thinking individual will not simply stop with you page, but actually look into the matter closely themselves, and search my videos out for further inspection. One they do that, they will be given the Gospel message. And it matters not whether they agree with me or not....it only matters that they've heard. At that point my job is done and it is up to the Lord to take it from there. So once again I thank you and all others like you who have propelled my ministry, whether they agree with it or not into the lime light where it can do the most good at least for some. So I cannot help but think this too is a design of the Lord! Thanks so much, cause even when you think you are destroying God's message...you are actually being used of God to build it up and give it publicity. Thanks....Even when a Christian looses they win! Praise Jesus!! Oh...and i wonder will you be unbias enough to post this letter response as an update?
Uh, so, so even the secular people, uh.. uh u-trust the bible in terms of, uh, of its information where, where, it comes to uncovering history.
And here's something else: God's not just an imaginary God. He's not imaginary at all. In fact God is as real as you and me. So much so, in fact, that the theory of God is totally testable. And I would challenge any serious scientist to actually set out to actually prove the existence of god. It can be done. Because God exists.
Here are a series of quotes that contradict each other:
This is a theoretical situation, not statistics. Claiming "a lot of the times" even though he likely has not actually researched this matter.
This can't be proven. The "strength" or "heart" behind a prayer is unmeasurable, making it impossible for anyone else to confirm its legitimacy. Therefore, making claims about "answered prayers" is nothing more than confirmation bias.
Then how do you know which is right? Which one should people flock to? If a religion is based upon the words of the all-knowing, ultimate creator, shouldn't that mean there is only one truth? And wouldn't that mean that every other religion is wrong? What evidence is there to believe one over the other? Oh right ... none....
Even a life-long follower and avid member of the Christian faith could pray whole-heartedly for something that is not granted. We'll use the familiar amputees example. If an amputee is a lifelong, committed, sensational, follower of the Christian faith and prays with 100% of their heart to be healed, it will change nothing. It doesn't matter who you are, or what your belief system is, amputated limbs will never regenerate. The only recovery they will have, will be the will of man and technology, not God.
brain-wash-ing [breyn-wosh-ing, -waw-shing]
